Some of the most frequent questions we get asked are about how to sand wooden floors.
So, we’ve put together this (very long) list of Q&As that will hopefully give you a hand and a good idea of what to expect if you’re considering doing the job yourself.
Before You Start
Where do I begin?
After completely emptying your room, remove any old floor coverings, nails and anything else that is attached to the floor and then give everything a good vacuum and clean. Basically, you want an empty clean surface to start working from.
Does the room have to be completely empty?
Ideally – yes. The big drum sander that you’ll be using is really bulky and you really need space to move around the room easily. Having said that, when we sanded our dining room floor, we did leave our blue sofa and sideboard in the room because we just didn’t have anywhere else to put them. We ended up completely sanding one-half of the room and then moved the sofa over to sand the other half of the room. Of course, it wasn’t ideal, but it wasn’t awful, either.
My floor is in a poor condition. Will it still look okay when it’s sanded and finished?
Probably. Don’t get me wrong, if all of your floorboards are rotten and you have big holes everywhere, even the best sanding job isn’t going to make it look good.
Having said that, our kitchen floor looked absolutely awful, but after replacing a few of the rotten floorboards and giving everything a sand, it’s actually not turned out too bad.
What tools will I need?
Basically, you will need a drum sander and an edging sander. The hire shop will give you what you need and show you how to use the machines. No need to worry though as it was really simple!
Are there any other tools or equipment that I’ll need?
Hammer, nail punch, sandpaper, vacuum cleaner oh, and lots of room in your bin!
What protective equipment will I need?
Dust masks, ear protection, sensible shoes.
Is there anything else I have to prepare?
Make sure your floor is completely flat and nail free. Every guide states that you should punch every nail of your floorboards into the wood so that it’s about 2mm under the surface.
Do I really have to punch down every nail before sanding?
In our opinion – no. Of course, you can’t have any nails protruding out of the surface, but we didn’t find it necessary to punch down the nails at all. I should point out, that this isn’t recommended and you will definitely have to be careful with your sander, as it can catch on a nail and rip your sandpaper or worse, damage the machine. The floor sanding company that tackled our living room floor also didn’t bother with this step.
Sanding
How do I actually sand the floor?
You will have to sand around the edges of the room with the edging sander and sand the rest of the floor with the large drum sander. If you have really, really uneven floorboards, you could start by sanding (with the large drum sander) diagonally to the floorboards to even things out and then move on to sanding in the direction of the boards. As a general rule, you always sand with the grain of the wood.
What kind of sandpaper should I use?
We used 24 grit, 40 grit, 80 grit and 120 grit. Start sanding the floor with some really coarse sandpaper (we started with 24 grit paper). After removing most of the old layers of varnish, stain and grime, you can move on the less coarse paper.
If I’ve removed all of the dirt and grime with the coarse paper, why do I have to bother sanding it again with finer paper?
The really coarse paper will really eat into the floorboards and leave a very rough surface. With each sand with finer paper, you are removing and smoothing out the roughness of the wood. Don’t skip the really fine paper either. It really does make your floor much smoother, more professional and easier to maintain.
How much sandpaper will I need to sand a floor?
Switch your sandpaper regularly – it’s definitely something we learned the hard way. The more frequently you switch the paper, the faster you’ll be able to sand the floors. Don’t underestimate the amount of paper you will need, either. When hiring the machine you buy the paper, too, but usually, you can return any surplus. You don’t want to run out of paper, especially if you’re working at the weekend and can’t get hold of more! For the large drum sander, we used about 12 sheets of 24 grit, 8 sheets of 40 grit paper, 8 sheets of 80 grit paper and 5 sheets of 120 grit paper. For the edging sander, we used about the same amount of each grit again.
Can I sand floorboards with a hand sander?
No. Believe me, I tried. It would also end up being a false economy, as even if you don’t count the impossible amount of time it would take to do, you would probably also end up going through such a ridiculous amount of sandpaper that it may even end up costing you more than to hire a machine!
Floor Finishing – Varnishing, Staining & Oiling
What kind of floor finish should I choose?
We chose to finish the floor with a clear satin varnish. Alternatively, you could decide to oil your floors.
How do I varnish a floor?
This couldn’t be easier to do. Start by making sure you’ve removed all dirt and dust from sanding before varnishing. We only used a brush (this is
What if I want to colour my floor?
We’d recommend using a stain and then a clear varnish on top. We’ve seen a few floors where a coloured varnish has been used which over time inevitably wears away and gets the odd chip and scratch. As the colour chips away, any marks are then really visible. If you stain and then varnish the floor, for the most part only the varnish will wear away leaving any chips less visible.
What kind of gloss level should I choose?
As with all decorative decisions, the choice is yours. We decided to go with a satin finish, as we think that it has a slightly more contemporary look compared to a glossier surface. We also took a few more practical decisions into consideration, too. We were concerned about a possible glare from a shiny surface and any scratches and imperfections (there are lots of them) are also a lot less visible on less shiny surfaces.
What kind of varnish should I use to varnish a floor?
We used Granwax Aquathane varnish in satin. It’s what’s been used on all of our floors and is the same product that the professional floor sanding company used, too. We love it because it’s really easy to apply, dries quickly and had a great natural looking finish that doesn’t have that plastic-y look that you will see quite often.
How long should I wait before varnishing a floor?
Your floor is essentially unprotected after sanding. You should aim to get it varnished (or oiled) as soon as possible.
How many coats of varnish should I apply?
The manufacturer’s guidelines will vary, but as a rough guide around 3 coats for normal traffic areas and an extra fourth coat for high traffic hallways like hallways is what you should be aiming for.
How long before I can move my furniture back into the room?
You shouldn’t move your furniture back till the varnished is entirely cured, which (depending on your varnish) can take up to 14 days! In most cases, this obviously isn’t possible and we only waited about 48 hours for most of our furniture.
Timescales
How long does it take to sand a room?
Don’t underestimate the amount of time it will take to sand your floor. The professional floor sander guy took around 2-3 hours to sand our living room floor – it took us a lot longer! In numbers, it took the two of us about 25 hours to sand 4 rooms (totalling at about 43m²). If you had just one room the same size, it probably wouldn’t take as long, as you’d have fewer edges and less manoeuvring to do.
How long does it take to varnish a floor?
Varnishing the floor was surprisingly quick. I’d say it didn’t take us much longer than an hour to varnish all rooms once.
Cost
How much will it cost?
We paid about £250 to have our living room floor (about 15m²) sanded. That works out at around £17/m². As a DIY job, the cost will depend on how many rooms you are doing in one go.
This is the cost breakdown of our epic floor sanding effort (dining room, hallway, first-floor landing & guest bedroom):
- The machine hire cost – Weekend hire floor sander and edge sander (Friday 14:00 – Monday 12:00) – £52.50 (special half price offer)
- Large sanding sheets – £69.60
- Small sanding disks for edging sander – £46.80
- Varnish (we still had some left over from our staircase restoration, so only needed one extra can) – £40.00
- Dust Masks – £4.18
Total: £213.08 – That works out at around £5/m².
Maintenance
How does the floor hold up? Are there many dents and scratches?
Our floor is holding up really well. In general, we don’t really wear shoes in the house, which is probably something that helps keep the floor looking good. Of course, there are a few dents and scratches, but they kind of add character to the floor and because we chose a clear varnish they are almost not visible. If you have a dent that really bothers you, you can check out our guide to fixing it here.
How do I maintain the floor?
We just give it a regular vacuum and wipe down with a damp cloth. Really nothing special.
How long will it last?
As a general rule, you should think about refinishing your floors when you redecorate. Refinishing it doesn’t mean that you have to go to all of the sanding efforts again. It’s more a case of lightly sanding the surface and revarnishing it.
Anything Else?
Will it be dusty?
Yes. It gets everywhere. Try and seal off the room you are working is as much as possible. On a positive note, the dust is really light and easy to vacuum and clean away.
Is it a DIY job or would I be better off getting a professional to do it?
It’s totally DIY-able, but be warned, it’s really, really hard work. The sanders are really heavy and I just wouldn’t have been able to lift the machine out of the car and into the house on my own.
Is there really a difference between a professionally sanded floor and a DIY sanded floor?
Having had some of our floors professionally done and having done some by ourselves, we can happily say that there is absolutely no difference.
Should I fill the gaps between the floorboards?
The gaps between our floorboards aren’t very large and we didn’t bother filling them. We have however insulated under our floors and also insulated the gaps between the skirting boards and floors.
Should I decorate the room before or after sanding?
Really it’s up to you. We’d recommend doing any of the dirty work like stripping wallpaper and skimming before sanding the floor, other than that it really doesn’t matter. When sanding around the edges of the floor, you will inevitably knock your skirting boards, though, so finishing them off after sanding the floor is probably a good idea.
Do you have any tips for us?
Don’t underestimate the work required! Keep an eye out for offers. Some hire shops seem to have half price or 3 for 2 events. It’s really noisy – don’t plan on doing the work if your neighbours are home!
We hope that our guide on how to sand wooden floors has helped you! If you have anything else you’d like to know, just drop us a line, we’d love to help if we can!
It’s my dream to find the original wood floor upstairs that is for now covered under layers and layers of things added by each owner! It was a very interesting post!
Oh, it would be amazing if you had wooden floors in your house. They’d definitely go with your cottage-y style! I admire your willpower for not ripping up everything just to have a look and see what’s there – not sure I could have resisted!
Cx
Awesome guide! You have such a brilliant job and so glad to see all your hard work has paid off. Our floors aren’t all that dissimilar to your Before pictures! I think we’l probably end up carpeting a large majority of it, but do you think we should give the floorboards a makeover beforehand? Or not worth the effort if they’re not on view?
P.S jealous of your beautiful large hallway! xx
Thanks! We are really happy with how our floors turned out, especially since some of them really weren’t in a great condition. If you’re carpeting your floors, I really wouldn’t bother doing anything to them. All of your hard work would just be wasted.
Cx
PS. We love our hallway, too. It’s one of my favorite places in the house.
Just a quick q on your stair decor.
What have you done on the tops, painted or sanded and varnished as they look stunning contrasting with the risers in white.
We have an 1840’s ‘Project’ house that needs some TLC and I am looking for ideas
Thanks Paul! We’ve posted a lot about our staircase in the past and you can check out the final reveal post (which includes links to all other staircase progress updates) here: https://www.littlehouseonthecorner.com/diy-duel-staircase-restoration-its-done/. Basically we stripped and sanded away all old paint, stained and varnished the treads and painted everything else. It tool such a long time, but we’re still really pleased with the result!
Cx
We’ve just sanded the floors in our lounge and was amazed by how much work it took but they look amazing now! Incredible what 115 of under carpet dirt created but definitely worth unearthing – your website was most useful throughout though so thank you!
Thank you so much for the feedback, Amy! So happy to hear that we were some help and that you’re floors look great.
Cx
Thank you for this amazing guide! So helpful – you saved us so much time! And congratulations on the beautiful work.
Thanks! Glad we could help, Seb!
Cx
I just sanded our 20 ft bedroom . Boards are 3 cms thick . I noticed the curves and dips in the boards were stopping the centres or edges being touched. That would wear down too much wood. It was all covered in a dryish bitumen black paint. So I switched to sanding across the room . Much faster . The wood colour is light fawn if you just get the paint off .Going deeper it looks much lighter. So I just took off the paint and left the wood where it was .
The sander leaves a painted border. I used a rotary wire brush for most of that and a multitool vibration machine to clean close to the skirting boards. An awkward low position to work in .Vaccuum as you do each section . Wear eye protection .If you use a mask it steams up the lenses.Then the dust gets on them .
The wood is old growth with fine grains. Don`t try a wire brush wheel on new wood .
I found that with the heavy sander even a fine grit sheet when new is very agressive at the edges.Maybe the designers can thin down the sheet edges a little .
A massive improvement in the house. My wife loves it to bits . I still have to varnish it .
Thanks for sharing your experience and tips, John. So happy to hear that your floors turne out great, too.
Cx
I complete on my new home (well it’s 1890 but new to me) this coming Friday… having read your blog and tips, I shall be hiring a sander from Monday for 3 days to do living room, dining room and hallway… I’ll let you know how I get on! I shall be very happy if it looks half as good as yours! Thanks for sharing your experience, I’m more prepared now and not quite so daunted as before but know I’m letting myself in for a lot of hard work! :-)
Congratulations on your new home! Sanding is such hard work, but it’s so worth it – I’m sure your floors will turn out fab.
Cx
Hi,
Just wanted to say thanks for all your amazing tips, your home is gorgeous.
We have just sanded our whole downstairs and love it! We have just ordered the varnish you recommend.
Thanks again, Claire
Thank you so much for your kind comment. So happy to hear that our advice was some help and that you’re happy with your new floors!
Cx
Hi, thanks for the tips. Im starting this project myself on 3 rooms in my house. I was wondering how much square footage you guys were working on when you gave your #’s for how many materials you purchased. Could you give us a better idea of how many sanding belts are needed per sq. ft?
It’s almost impossible to tell how much sandpaper you’ll need as it compeltely depends on the condition of your floorboards (how flat they are, how many layers of paint or stain are on them, what kind of paint or stain is on them, etc.) and how often you change the paper. In all hireplaces where I researed prices, you could return any unused sheets of sandpaper, but as a very rouch guide, we used about 30 sheets (10 coarse, 10 medium & 10 fine) for the large beltsander and about the same for the edging sander. The area we sanded was about 40m² (and it was in a good condition), but we did realise that we should have switched the paper more often.
Hope that’s some help, Nate – good luck with your sanding!
Cx
Thank you so much for posting this! I’m about to embark upon an epic sanding and sealing adventure after pulling carpet & tapping nails in for the last week (the nails were sticking out a lot). This post has given me the courage to collect the two sanders in the morning after a few moments of ‘am I crazy?!’. So I really appreciate the shot in the arm to get on with it. Thank you!
Thanks for your kind comment, Steph! So glad to hear that we were some help. Although it’s really hard work, it is sooo worth it. I’m sure your floors will end up looking fab!
Good luck!
Cx
Thanks for this article, read it a couple of times in preparation for this weekend! 2 hallways & a dining room to do by myself.
Couple of q’s:
1) how clean should the floor be before you start? We’ve just had a plasterer round so they are quite messy
2) for a narrow hallway, are we better using the edger rather than larger sander?
3) do you clean up all the dust etc after sanding, but before staining/varnishing?
Finally, how long after varnishing can you walk on it? We have 2 dogs!!
Thanks a lot, appreciate your help!
I hope I can achieve anything like your house, it’s gorgeous!
Hi Sarah!
That sounds like a lot of work, but I’m sure it’ll be worth it!
1. Don’t bother cleaning your floors at all! There’s really no point – the coarse paper will remove everything!
2. You should sand in the direction of the grain of the wood. We found using the edging sander much more hard work than the large belt sander. If you can, I’d suggest using the belt sander as much as possible, but if your hallway is too narrow, then you’ll have to just use the edger.
3. Vacuum a lot! I’d go over the floor a few times before even thinking about varnishing it. If you’re really picky, you could think about lightly wiping the floor down with white spirit, but I personally wouldn’t bother – it’s the floor after all!
How long it takes before you can walk on the floor after varnishing, really depends on the varnish you use and the weather conditions. Our varnish dried super quickly (within a few hours), but we didn’t put any heavy furniture back till a few days later, as it will still take time to fully cure and completely harden. I’d say wait as long as you can!
Whilst it’s hard work, it is easy enough, so I wouldn’t worry about it too much!
Good luck, hope all goes well at the weekend!
Cx
Hello
The last time we had our ground floor sanded was three years ago. I am a little disappointed that we seem to have two small areas where the wear and tear is obvious already, near the dining table where there is more footfall. Is it ok to try and patch up these areas by sanding these two areas back only and reapplying the exact same clear varnish that was used originally? Or will the floor look patched up?
Looking forward to your reply
Laraine
It’s hard to say what would be best without knowing the exact situation. Varnished wooden floors tend to change colour over time, so I assume that any are you patch will be show up. The best way would probably be to give your whole floor a light sand and revarnish, but that all depends on how much work and time you’re willing to invest. I guess the question you have to ask yourself is will patching the floor make it look better or worse than it is at the moment.
Cx
Hi!
Thanks for the helpful tips, we start tomorrow!!! x
Thanks Claire & good luck!
Cx
Hi. Hope you don’t mind getting messages so long after your fabulous sanding job!
Quick question – I’m thinking of sanding our sitting room floorboards (currently carpeted) but I’m worried about drafts and being cold in the winter.
You mentioned insulating under the floorboards and skirting, but presumably this means taking off all the skirtings and lifting up all the floorboards? This would be quite a major job…..
Hope you can advise – look forward to hearing from you!
Many thanks
Megan
Always happy to help if we can! We have a cellar under our home, so for us it was easy to access. Our house was really cold without insulation, so I’m not sure I’d recommend having sanded floors if you can’t insulate them. If you still want to risk it, there are strips you can install between the gaps in your floorboards that should help seal the draughts (http://stopgaps.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjw4LaqBRD60pfSn43ZwLQBEiQAJv5FLN3FGmERk1PdAFQCzRQBgi1oaU-6uuwJqcKGn4T0qAUaAoop8P8HAQ).
I guess it all depends on how much you’d like to see your floorboards!
Cx
Hi. did you not seal between the boards? I have been told by every company I have contacted regarding sanding my living room floor that this is a very important step. Now I’m wondering if it needs to be done at all? Saying that, I have 3 children who have a habit of spilling drinks, so it would probably be better to have gaps sealed.
The answer to your question is yes and no ;).
No, we haven’t sealed the gaps (and none of the companies that we contacted when we had our living room sanded suggested it). We have however insulated under all of our ground floor floors, it would be way too draughty and cold otherwise. Now for the yes part – I can totally understand why people would recommend sealing the floor (although I’m not sure how it would be done to avoid spills or what it would look like). We are careful about not spilling things, but as we have a cellar underneath all of the house, we could access any leaks underneath if the worst was to happen.
Hope that’s a bit of help!
Cx
Hi there,
Really great guide – so informative!
I’ve just got a couple of questions as we’ve just moved into a Victorian flat on the second floor and want to get rid of the old carpet.
Do you think we’d have issues with drafts if we’re on the second floor?
There’s currently carpet, underlay and what looks like a thin mdf board covering everything, do you think we risk annoying our neighbours below if we strip back to just floorboards?
Finally, we also have to paint the room and probably replaster (no idea how to go about this btw). I’m guessing we should do this before tackling the floor?
After reading your guide, I think we’ll have to go down the route of getting someone in to do the sanding. It’s only the living room and hallway we want done and as it’s up two flights of steep steps, I’m guessing you don’t recommend attempting to drag the heavy machines up here ourselves…
Thanks again for the handy info!
Jacob
Thanks Jacob!
I think you may still have a few draughts – mainly around the edges where your skirting boards and floors touch (on outer walls). You can insulate between the gap though, so I wouldn’t worry about it. (We shared a post about how we did it that you can read here).
Your neighbours will definitely hear you more. I’d also recommend checking if you’re even allowed to sand the floor – I remember hearing about cases where the lease on flats prohibits that kind of work.
You should do any plastering and dirty work before you sand the floors. Plastering can be really messy, so sanding after will ensure that you end up with a great floor.
I wouldn’t worry too much about the machines being heavy. I could carry the edging sander without a problem, it’s just the big drum sander that’s heavy. Jan carried it up our stairs on his own, but it would be a good idea to get someone to help you get it up the stairs if you have two flights to conquer. Basically it’s heavy, but should be doable.
Hope that’s some help! Good luck with your floors!
Cx
Hi,
Your house looks amazing!
We’re decorating our daughter’s bedroom in our Victorian house and are planning on sanding the floor. The boards at the moment have the dreaded, black paint / bitumen stuff that Victorians apparently liked to paint on, all around the edge of the room. Looking at some of the pics, I think(?) You had some of that stuff too.
Did you strip it off first, and if so, what with? Or did you just sand it off?
I’ve read different things on different sites, most seem to suggest it needs stripping off first or it clogs up the sandpaper, but there don’t seem any great solutions for how to get it off?!
Thank you Dave! We didn’t have any bitumen, just dark varnish. Whilst that’s not what we stripped, I wouldn’t go to the effort of trying to remove it first.
When you first strip the floorboards, you’ll be using a really coarse 24 grit sandpaper which doesn’t clog up too much. You also have to change the paper a lot anyway. When we had our floors sanded in the living room (before we realised it was something we could do ourselves) the floorsanding guy never went more than the 3-4 times the length of the room (with the coarse paper) before changing the paper. Even if you end up using a few more sheets of paper, it’ll probably still work out cheaper than having to buy a paint stripper, too.
Hope that’s some help – we’d love to know how you get on!
Good luck.
Cx
Hi Christine
I have been following your blog for a while now and has helped me with some tips on DYI. So I should start by saying thank you for posting so much helpful information.
I am writing this because I saw that you kept the original floorboards upstairs, they look gorgeous. I live in a fairly modern house (built about 9 years ago). The upstairs is carpeted wall-to-wall and we would like to replace it with some solid flooring (i.e. engineered wood).
I guess that my biggest concern in making such a big change is noise – and not so much the impact noise of footsteps, but the airborne noise of voices, TV and things like that. Wood conducts noise rather well and it would be really bad if the bedrooms upstairs lose a bit of privacy because of changing the flooring.
I know you live in an Edwardian house, which is different to mine. But can you please share your experience regarding noise?
Thanks,
Hector.
Thanks for the feedback Hector. Yes, I would say that having a wooden floor makes things a bit louder. For us the difference isn’t big – especially as there are only two of us – but I think it will be different from house to house.
Cx
Hi,
Just found your page and intend to have a good read through. Just a quick question though that would help greatly in my project time lines.
I intend to sand and stain my living room, hall and study. Should I do them all in one go or would I get the same seem less results if I spread the work and the cost out over a few months?
Many thanks.
We’d definitely recommened doing as many rooms as possible in one go. It’s hard work, but worth it. You’ll only have to hire the machines once which will be more cost efficient, you’ll only have to clean your house once (the dust gets everywhere) and best of all you’ll have it all finished on one go.
In terms of cost it really won’t make much difference if you sand one room or more. Yes, you’ll have to pay for some more sandpaper, but the biggest cost is the machine hire which you’ll only have once.
Good luck with your floors!
Cx
Wooden floor just sanded 1960 style wood 5 small strips in squares Has come up like magic
What would you finish it with.Do not fancy a shine,can I just use a wax.
Sounds great Marlene! I would either oil it or varnish it (I personally don’t think that pure wax would be hardwearing enough). Either work well and it depends on the look you’re after. You can get varnish that’s matt (we used Granwax Aquathane in satin which is also fairly matt) but I think it sounds like oil would be a good choice for you (something like this). We’ve used products by the same company in the past (although not this specific one) and have always been really happy with the quality!
Good luck with your floors!
Cx
PS. We’d love to know how you get on and what kind of finish you decide to go for in the end!
Hi, great website! You’re both very inspiring!
We are well underway with the renovation of our own Edwardian detached 4 bedroom house in Bournemouth. It can be a bit overwhelming at times. We have two young children!
I had a question about the floors. We are restoring our hallway and dining room. The kitchen and dining room have been knocked through and a steel installed. The kitchen is original red quarry tile and so we will be digging this up and replacing with wooden floors. I am trying to find reclaimed 5 3/4 inch floor boards to match the dining room as it will be one room now. The problem I have is that over the years for electrics and gas and plumbing, people have hacked their way through some of the flood boards with saws. Some of the cuts go through 4 or 5 boards in a straight line. I would like to stagger these and repair but would appreciate any tips for cutting and replacing boards
Thanks for a great website! I love your house
Thank you so much Graene! It’s overwhelming here sometimes, so it’s hard to imagine what it must be like with two children as well!
Some of our floors were in a similar condition as you’re describing yours and we also rejigged them so that it looked better.
We usually tried to turn the floorboards round so that the cut end disappeared under the skirting and the end that was previously hidden was now in the room – in our case the original edges were much straighter than the random cuts that tradesmen had done over the years.
I’d also suggest turning every second row of floorboards around so that you’re alternating the cuts between one end of the room and the other. Also, if you know where your furniture or rugs will be going, try to hide some of the cuts under them. We did that in our bedroom where a couple of the cut boards are now hidden under where the bed is.
Hope that makes sense, but if not let me know!
Cx
I sanded and varnished our living room floor about 8 years ago and we are about to do the same to our 2nd reception room and main bedroom – I’d forgotten the labour of love that it was the first time around and have been scouring “you tube” tutorials and DIY sites for information, before we start our new project – HOWEVER, I stumbled across your page and I’m so glad !! it’s the most easy to follow and informative – all the other sites show the “perfect” empty rooms and a professional gliding up and down with a sander and taking a lot of time with the preparation – you’ve explained concisely here what you can do , and what you can get away with not doing…. and the timescales involved. it makes me feel more prepared now – thanks !!! ps we are only now going to re-varnish the living room after 8 years, yes its been looking a bit worn for a while, but it’s only now that we’re redecorating so as you say, it’s the ideal time..
Thank you so much for the feedback Karen! It’s much appreciated and it’s great to hear that our experience and tips will come in useful!
Good luck with your floors!
Cx
Hello,
I have been using your website so much as i’m currently doing up my first flat in an old Victorian terraced house and your advice has been invaluable! Thank you!
I’m planning to sand the original wooden floorboards this weekend and then will varnish or wax them. I have a few floorboards which have been replaced with newer ones – did you have this? Is is obvious once the floors have been treated? A few are also screwed down and i’ve not been able to take the screws out as the heads have been damaged over time. Did you have this at all? For the ones i can remove I’m not sure whether it’s best to countersink them back in or replace with nails. Were all yours nailed down?
I’ve also read lots of conflicting information about varnish vs wax, is wax less hardwearing?
Thanks so much,
Claudia
Thank you for the feedback Claudia! It’s great to hear that we’re able to help!
Yes, we had to replace some boards, but we used some of our original ones from other rooms (where we knew we’d be covering the floor). So, for us there’s no difference. You’ll probably see a slight difference for a while, but as long as you use the same type of wood I don’t think that it will be much of an issue.
We didn’t have any screws, but I would probably be tempted to remove the ones that you can and replace them with nails. The nails are almost invisible in the wood, so the less screws you have the better. Having said that, it all depends on how perfect you’d like the floor to be.
Overall I wouldn’t worry too much about things being perfect – it’s all part of the character and when everything is nicely sanded it’ll probably all blend together, so that you won’t notice any imperfections.
We chose varnish because we have the floorboards in the hallway and thought that it would be better for a high traffic area and would involve less maintenance. At the end of the day, I think it’s more down to personal preference than anything else.
Hope that’s some help.
Good luck with your sanding!
Cx
Hi! I’m reading your blog at 4am for the upteenth time because we are due to sand our living and dinning room floors over the weekend! The floor looks in alright condition, a bit panicky about insulation.. Whether or not stop gap would do the trick. Anyway planning on sanding, sealing and varnishing Friday-Sunday! Thanks for the blog it’s given me hope!
How exciting Buki! It’s really don’t difficult (although it’s hard work) so try not to worry too much!.
I think that something like stop gap will help, but it’s only there to avoid draughts and won’t insulate anything. I’d definitely recommend adding some insulation as it can be quite chilly in winter otherwise. If you don’t have access from beneath, you could lift a couple of floorboards (somewhere that will be covered later, as it’s easy to damage the edge) and access the space beneath that way.
Good luck with your floor and don’t forget to take some before pictures – you’ll quickly forget what it used to look like!
PS. Would love to hear how you get on!
Cx
I’ve just found this through Pinterest x I’m so happy , I’ve been searching the Internet for this kind of information and have come unstuck. This is amazing and so useful!! Feel like I can do my floors now confidently , thank you. 😀
Thank you, Victoria! It’s really hard work but definitely DIYable and very rewarding (when it’s done!).
Good luck with your floors!
Cx
Thanks for the great webpage.
I was wondering what you can use to clean the floorboards after sanding, hoovering and before applying oil finish? Some say that you need to use some thing with no residual so the oik is taken up by the wood. Can you help?
We just vacuumed the floor and didn’t use anything to specifically clean it afterwards. IF you want, you can wipe it down with white spirit to remove every last bit of dust.
Cx
I notice your skirting boards have taken a bit of a sanding too, I’m tempted to do this to our kitchen and living room, though I’d be concerned that the machine would damage the bottom of the kitchen cupboards.
You’re totally right, Matt. It’s almost impossible to sand your floors without damaging the skirting at least in parts, too. Whilst skirting can probably be patched, I agree that it could be a bit of an issue with your kitchen cabinets – maybe there’s some way of protecting them while sanding?
Cx
Thanks for a really useful article, and all your responses to the replies. We have about 8m2 of downstairs hallway to do, and possibly 16m2 of lounge. All the wood in the house is stripped down to bare pine, so we thought that to effectively do the same with the flooring would work well. The lounge is currently carpeted, but it could do with (yet another) clean, or replacing anyway.
We’re committed to doing the hallway, and because of the prominent pine skirting boards, doors and architraves, and staircase banisters we’re minded to oil the floorboards rather than varnish them, so that the boards and skirting match better, but I assume we can always varnish them at a later date if the maintenance of oiled boards gets too much. The good thing is that the skirting boards are pretty flush with the floorboards and the gaps between boards are mostly quite narrow.
We got a local carpenter to look at the state of the current boards. They were borderline for being sanded, and he spent about half a day removing screws, getting the nails to match, patching up the odd gash, and replacing some of the floorboards with ones we purchased from a reclamation yard. Once or twice he was able to turn a board upside down. Anyhow we’re already about £200 down!
He thought the lounge boards are likely to be much more sound than the hallway boards, since the latter are often pulled up and put down again for plumbing jobs. This was borne out by a quick inspection of some of the lounge boards, which at some point in the last 130 years have been variously stained and waxed/oiled, but not sanded.
The hallway should be a fairly easy job being downstairs, currently clear of furniture and not too large. Unfortunately the boards are laid cross-ways, so we’ll always be sanding at a right angle to the grain.
The main question is how easy would it be to varnish boards some time after having oiled them, but we’d welcome any other thoughts and observations.
Our floorboards are varnished and we have been happy with them but I think that we’d oil them if we were to do the project again. Varnish seals the boards but oil is more natural. Apparently, little marks and dents show up less on oiled floors, too.
I think that it would be difficult to varnish over oiled floors without sanding them again first.
Hope that’s some help.
Cx
PS. I’d definitely recommend only sanding with the grain of the wood even if it is more complicated and involves some acrobatics.
This post is excellent so far as sanding and preparation work is concerned. It is a nicely laid out version of a genuinely approved method – well done and thank you. My only concern is advice on staining. I would not advise people on colouring floors when you have not done this yourself. The reason is your floors are softwood. Staining and colouring softwood, despite what manufacturers say is stupidly difficult because of the perfect sanding job required. Even then due to uneven grain structures your floor is likely to look blotchy due to how the wood soaks it up. Hardwood is the only wood you should really stain due to more regular grain structure. Additionally maintenance of floors vary heavily depending on product and manufacturers guidelines should be adhered to in all instances. Loads of help for all this elesewhere. Nevertheless, this was a great read so bravo.
Thank you, Carl. I believe that if you want the floor to be a different colour (whether you do it yourself or not) it has to be done before the layer of varnish. If the varnish chips (which it will) at least the colour underneath will be the same. We stained our softwood stair treads and handrail and had absolutely no problem at all achieving a perfectly even finish. I guess it will always depend on the quality of products you use (We used Fiddes Non-grain raising stain) and possibly on the quality of the wood.
Cx
Did you guys sand between coats of varnish? I’ve just put the first coat on and now the floor feels quite rough :(
Any wooden surface will always be a bit rough after the first coat of varnish or paint. It’s mostly because the air in the wood will cause little air bubbles. We usually sand after every coat of paint or varnish with some fine sandpaper (around 240 grit). Having said that, we didn’t bother sanding between coats when we did the floor as it was only slightly rough and we figured it wouldn’t bother us.
Cx
Brilliant thanks. Since posting I’ve watched Ronseal’s helpful video which suggests only sanding before the last coat.
You’re welcome, Jamie. I guess sanding just before the last coat will be more than enough for the floor. If you’re varnishing furniture or anything else you’ll be touching I’d definitely recommend sanding after every coat – you’ll achieve a much smoother and far more superior finish.
Cx
I live on my own have removed all carpet and nails from living room floorboards in Victorian cottage and now want to sand it. Would it be best to hire a professional as I would be unable to carry sander up all of 15 steps into my property and have had shoulder surgery last year ? Is the sander also really hard to use on your own ? I await your advice, thank you
In general, sanding a floor isn’t a difficult or complicated job. It’s hard work but if you take your time it should be perfectly doable on your own. The machines are really easy to use on your own, too.
Having said that, I couldn’t lift the large sander out of the car on my own and there was definitely no chance of me carrying it up the stairs. The edging sander is much smaller and lighter but it has a really strong pull on it when the disk rotates which may be difficult for you to use if you have problems with your shoulder.
Hope that’s some help!
Cx
This is such a great post, am helping a friend with their floors and think it’ll take us more than 25 hours lol! Will be hiring a sander from Fat Lama for a weekend, think that’ll be enough time and also have seen some listed for a decent price on there.
Yikes, 25 hours is a long time – we could all use more friends like you, Graham! ;) Good luck with the floor!
Cx
Hi there, thank you so much for this helpful post – it was invaluable! We have had a tiring week sanding 5 rooms in our house and have used an edge sander to get as close to the skirting boards as possible. However there is still an inch of really black varnish next to the skirting boards which the edge sander can’t get to. It makes all the rooms look unfinished and dirty. Did you have this problem? If so, how did you deal with it? The detail sander won’t budge the black varnish. Any advice would be much appreciated!
You’re welcome, Naomi! We didn’t have the problem you described with the edge. The sander we used went right up to the skirting board and left nothing behind. I used a little palm sander to do the corners of our room – it worked but took forever so would only be viable for tiny areas.
I think your best option would be to use an angle grinder with sandpaper disks (using the same grades you used to sand the rest of the floor). This should allow you to get right up close to the skirting and an angle grinder should also be powerful enough to remove the black varnish.
Good luck!
Cx
My partner and i are planning on sanding the entire house but starting up stairs first this week!! After reading this im preparing myself for major hard work! 😲 however as the walls are ready for painting, would you recommend painting before or after the sanding has been done or does it really not matter?
We’re just preparing for another sanding job, too, Beth! I totally feel for you – it is hard work but it’s also really worth it!
If your walls are ready, I’d lean towards painting them first. You don’t want to end up with paint on your newly sanded floors or take any chances denting the floor with your ladder. There’s also no need for covering anything if you paint the walls first (yep, you can call me lazy!).
Having said that, it probably doesn’t matter too much.
Good luck with the sanding!
Cx
Hi!
Thanks for the great article!! It’s been so helpful!
I’m thinking of doing this myself but got a quote from a well recommended professional which comes out at just over double the cost…so it’s tempting to avoid my terrible DIY skills :)
Can I ask what you guys did with the furniture you left in the room?(sofa and sideboard) You said you left it in to sand but were you able to leave it there to varnish too? I’m just trying to plan the logistics of varnishing times and sleep :)
I’m actually sanding the floors in our new home right now and I can honestly say it’s one of the worst jobs. I’ve only done a day and am already aching all over and I’m sure I dreamt about sanding last night! Having said that, it’s so worth it in the end!
We moved the furniture from one side of the room to the other and then back again – for both varnishing and sanding. The varnish we used dried quickly, so it wasn’t too bad. If at all possible, I’d definitely recommend moving the furniture out of the room though. It makes working sooo much easier!
Cx
Thanks for your reply! That doesn’t sound like fun but hopefully it’s worth it in the end! :)
Can I ask what finish you’re using on your new house? I’ve seen a lot of people recommend osmo poly oil but the professionals I had out advised against oil recommending lacquer instead. Thanks!
I’m aching all over but it really is worth it! (You can see some current pics in our Instagram Stories).
We’re going for an oil finish this time. I loved the varnish we used and would still happily recommend it but there are a lot of reasons that oil is a viable option, too. If you use a good oil the finish can be as hard-wearing as varnish but, as always, there are pros and cons. We’re planning on sharing a post about it (which will probably be too late for you). At the end of the day, it’s personal preference though!
Cx
It looks like you guys are well underway!!
I just started today…man that edge sander is hard going!!
One thing I’m noticing is the finish is coming off the middle section of my floorboards find but mostly around where floorboards meet and some other points the sander doesn’t seem to be having much of an impact.
Do you have any tips? Do I need to go to a lower grit? (I started on 40 since the boards were previously sanded and finished just a long time ago and are now a bit worn) or does it mean the boards are uneven and I should do a diagonal pass? Or just get in there with the edge sander? (God I hope not! Haha)
We are, Marc! I actually just finished the second coat of oil – just one more to go and then we’re done (for now). Oh, and yep, the edging sander is pure evil!
You’re right about the reason the boards being uneven – we had the same issue.
I’d definitely use a lower grit to start (maybe around 24 grit) – it’ll save you loads of time and energy. Depending on how uneven the boards are I’d say that sanding diagonally can be a good idea but if you’ve already refinished your boards in the past I’d assume that switching to coarser paper will do the trick.
Good luck – it’ll be worth it in the end!
Cx
Good guide, saves me having to take the skirting boards off which i was considering.
One question, when varnishing, did you sand between coats? Cheers!
You can, of course, take off the skirting because it will mark but we found that just touching up the odd mark here and there was much less work.
You should totally sand between coats of varnish, Tobias. I always do when painting any furniture, doors, etc. but have to confess that we didn’t on the floor. It was still smooth and we figured it didn’t matter if there was the odd bump on the floor.
Cx
Hi Christine
Brilliant website, thank you so much. We’ve just finished sanding one bedroom, stairs and landing (not far from you in SE Manchester :-) and it looks great. Couldn’t have done it without your fun and informative guide!
Thanks again,
Ben
Thank you for the feedback, Ben! So happy to hear that we were able to help in a small way – even if you had to do all of the hard work! ;)
Cx
Hello there !!
As many have said before …. GREAT GUIDE !!!
Hoping you are still replying to messages (fingers crossed!!)…. So I have just spent the last 2 days sanding the living room floor and I am pretty pleased with the result. I’m not jumping with joy however because there is about 20% of the floor in the middle of the boards that are left with the old finish left untouched even with doing the diagonal run first :-((( I realize now that when hiring the floor sander the coarsest paper that was supplied was 40 grit and as in your guide I should have started with a 24 grit. Now that time is running out and the hired equipment has been returned I wanted to know what your advise on the quickest, easiest solution to get rid of the offending marks !!
Any advise muchly appreciated !!!!
I totally feel for you, Paul! It’s those last bits that are most difficult to remove but getting rid of them is what will make the difference between an okay finish and a great finish.
Annoyingly, the only advice I can give you is to keep sanding. It definitely sounds like you needed to start sanding with coarser paper first (we even started sanding with 16 grit in our current home) but now that you’ve already sanded with 40 grit, it’s probably best to stick with it. Keep sanding, it’ll feel like nothing happening for ages but then all of a sudden the last bits in the middle will disappear. It’s not quick but it’s the only way to do it.
Good luck with the rest of your floors! It’ll be worth it in the end!
Cx
Hi Christine
Your blog is brilliant and all your projects look amazing.
We want to sand our dining room floor but feel it’s too much to take on ourselves, (we’re getting on a bit!!!!)
Can you recommend the professional sanding guy who did your Manchester floor. I would be grateful if you thought he did a good job and of course if he is still working his name or company name and contact number. There are several websites re sanding in the Manchester area but I would rather have a recommendation from yourself as your floors look amazing. (I know you have done the majority yourselves, shame we can’t hire you, ha ha)
Hope you don’t mind me asking for your help and advice.
Many thanks
Maria
Thank you so much for the compliments, Maria!
I’d love to be able to help you but I’m sorry to say, that the guy who did our floors doesn’t sand floors anymore (he stopped a couple of years ago). I could give you recommendations for other trades but I’m afraid that I don’t know any other good floor sanders.
Keeping my fingers crossed that you find a good sander!
Cx
PS. You’d be amazed at how many people ask to hire us for the most random projects! ;)
What a shame Christine that he is no longer working, it must be a tiring occupation to be honest, it really looks and sounds like hard work, so I don’t blame him. I’ll be in touch should I need any other tradesman recommendations or hints on the floor if we do end up sanding ourselves!
Thanks so much for your prompt reply, you’ve been really kind.
Many thanks
Maria